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    Idiot/Savant

    The alternative is an ETS policy that changes massively from one Government to the next. Because one thing is certain, if National maintains its current polluter subsidy policy Labour must propose much bolder initiatives for when it becomes the Government to catch us up.

    And why would that be a Bad Thing?

    Tony Milne

    Bad if the policy changes dramatically from one government to the next and we waste years (which the previous Gov was guilty of as well as this one) re-debating what to do. We need action on climate change.

    I suspect it is the inevitable outcome though. I think National is too scared of their big polluting backers to do anything that will actually take us forward. But how long will we have to wait for a Labour-Green Government to implement more dramatic changes and will it be too late?

    tim barclay

    The trouble is no one is interested in the Labour Party politically. You think people still want to come and see you and hear from you, pay obeisance to you. But they don't. It might suit National to talk to you or it might prefer to treat you like you treated National over the Electoral Finance Act. Maybe National for political reasons wants clear blue water between you and National on this issue, crush you politically over it and force you to change.

    Swimmer

    That title made me laugh. Labour have tried, I don't think it's going to happen.

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